Trump jail time ideas:

[Irish_Dem]

1. The judge could order jail time but delay it until the trial is finished.
And make the total amount of time served dependent upon Trump's behavior
between now and the end of the trial. Let that hang over Trump's head.

2. Put Trump in jail now for just a few hours for each violation.
When Trump whines about spending two hours in jail he will look like a baby.
And antagonize his J6 cult criminals who are spending more time in jail.

[EYESORE 9001]

1. I don't know how any of that works, but I like your ideas

To quote Mango Mussolini on the topic of women obtaining abortions: There must be some form of punishment. Well, that’s my sentiment toward his threats against jurors, the judge’s family, etc. Even if it’s only brief stints in the pokey, he’ll perceive it as hell and come off looking like a big baby.

[Irish_Dem]

2. Trump uses the law to protect himself and punish/control others.

Typical of a fascist leader.

Yes I like the idea of putting Trump into jail for a few hours.
The judge doesn't look harsh and Trump sounds like a baby for crying about it.

[3Hotdogs]

34. No.. Overnights in the slammer. Out in A.M. with just enough time for shit, shower and shave. Then back to court.

Or Wednesdays and weekends in the cooler: = No golfing.

With cell phone removed. No opportunity for tweets on how "very unfair" this all is.

[Irish_Dem]

35. Overnight is good. Judge probably won't do Wed or weekends.

The judges don't want to interfere with Trump's presidential campaign.
They know it will look bad.

[PuraVidaDreamin]

3. Prison is what I'm manifesting- and in my mind

I propose turning Mar a Lago into a golf course that is
made entirely of a huge giant sand trap.

[Irish_Dem]

4. Yes if anyone deserves jail time, it is Donald Trump.

We don't even know the half of the crimes he committed while in the WH.
And the damage is incalculable.

[Danascot]

17. I was thinking about that recently

Some day there will be a compendium of trumps crimes and it will be the size of the old World Book or Britannica encyclopedias. And still they will have missed some.

[shelshaw]

5. I prefer 30 days for each offense

Lock his worthless ass up immediately at Staten Island. They can wheel him into court daily in a jumpsuit. He’s earned this. Probably the only thing he’s ever actually earned.

[Irish_Dem]

7. I wish the same.

But unlikely the judge will do it.

Judges like tiny steps for entitled white defendants.

[FailureToCommunicate]

6. Literally ANYONE else, by this time, would be familiar with the hospitality at Rikers Island.

[Irish_Dem]

8. Judges like tiny steps for rich entitled white defendants.

[bucolic_frolic]

9. Klink 24/7 and let him campaign from a behind bars video feed on weekends

[surfered]

10. Jailing him now would likely delay his trial

and/or provide a basis for appeal.

[Irish_Dem]

11. Yes I think this is what the judge is exactly thinking.

This is a judge who is efficient and goes at a clip in terms of timing.

He is hell bent on keeping the momentum going.

He wants zero unnecessary delays.

That is why I am thinking he will go with delaying jail until the end of the trial.
But let Trump know so it hangs over his head and maybe Trump will behave.

And as long as the judge goes with tiny baby steps, the appeal court with be OK with it?

[patricia92243]

20. In the judges warnings, he said the trial would go on without Trump if he

had contempt time in the pokey.

[Irish_Dem]

21. He could jail Trump during the day.

And evenings.

Let him out for the weekends to campaign.

[Silent3]

12. Why would it delay his trail?

People are delivered back and forth between lock-up and court all the time. Besides, I’d be surprised if Trump were locked up more than one day.

I sure hope the judge doesn’t try something like just an hour or two. Even ever-whiny Trump can manage that, and would get all the martyr glory he wants without suffering anywhere near enough to learn a lesson.

A full day or two, however? Trump would probably be badly shaken by that. I don’t think he has the coping skills to shrug that off.

[Irish_Dem]

13. The judge could be afraid of the drama and more acting out.

Trump's attorney jumping on this and filing additional motions and appeals which take up the judge's time.

Trump acting out even more, prosecutors filing more contempt motions.

All of this sidetracking the judge.

This judge is very focused, has his eye on the ball.
He doesn't want to go off on tangents.

[Silent3]

27. So the gag order is meaningless?

That's what all of this being afraid of what Trump might do leads to.

[Irish_Dem]

28. I think it quite possible there will be some sort of jail time.

But measured and incremental.

The judge won't just throw Trump in jail and toss away the key.

And he won't threaten jail time if he doesn't mean it.

He will do something in small careful steps.

That is my read of this judge.

[Silent3]

39. Who said anything about "toss away the key"?

There’s not anything left of “small careful steps” other than jail time that doesn’t send the message that the gag order is meaningless.

My point is that there’s nothing “careful” about a next step so very small that Trump gets a martyrdom talking point but no significant cause for regretting his actions. An hour in jail won’t cut it. The next step should at the very least be an overnight stay.

[Irish_Dem]

41. It was a bit of hyperbole to illustrate extremes vs middle ground.

I am also not saying what I personally would do or like to see happen.

Trump should be sitting in a supermax prison for life.

I am just saying what I think this particular judge will do based on his profile
and past behavior.

[Roy Rolling]

14. Enlightened

These are two excellent alternatives to the gauntlet Trump PR handlers want. They want TFG in jail to make a show of it.

[Irish_Dem]

15. Yes it would give Trump consequences but diminish the drama Trump could cause.

[Johnny2X2X]

16. Treat him like any other defendent

Violate a gag order a dozen or more times and see what happens to you. Accommodations should be made for him in jail to remain safe, but I think a weekend in jail to start would be what you or I would get.

[Irish_Dem]

19. All the judges have adamantly refused to treat Trump like an ordinary person.

They treat him like a rich, powerful entitled person.

We have to face that reality.

The most we can hope for are some small steps on the part of the judges.

[Paper Roses]

18. Require a complete physical like other prisoners.

(I suppose this is not a nice thought on my part but that is the procedure, isn't it?)

[Irish_Dem]

22. I don't think the holding cell prisoners get complete physicals.

If the judge is just tossing them there for a couple of hours.

But Trump does have medical problems the jailers will have to know about.

[IronLionZion]

23. He could write a book and call it "My Struggle"

but he would need a ghost writer since he doesn't know how to write.

Some of his GOP primary opponents have stated he won't even be able to vote for himself if he's in jail.

[cannabis_flower]

24. I'm all for house arrest

Either now or when he’s convicted - only not his house. House arrest in Mar A Lago wouldn’t be punishment, it would be vacation.

The court should buy or rent a small house (2 or 3 bedrooms)in a secluded area ( West Virginia, Wyoming, New Mexico) with no TV and no phone. That would be enough room for Trump and his Secret Service detail to protect him. They could come and go in shifts and bring his necessities such as groceries and medicine and doctors if he needs them. All paid for by Trump.

[Irish_Dem]

25. House arrest at MAL maybe the best we can hope for.

I agree, it will be a joke.
Jail time in a literal resort.

[paleotn]

26. I like your ideas. And to those who think jailing him is impossible

It’s not. For contempt or as sentence for crimes, it is not. Plenty of places both state and federal where he can be locked up and isolated. In fact, keeping him in one place, behind walls and bars, makes Secret Service’s job easier. If he still has SS protection. That to be decided later.

[Irish_Dem]

30. Jail time is absolutely possible. It is a matter of courage and will on the part of the judges.

Arrangements can be made without too much trouble.
SS can turn over custody to the bureau of prisons.

[JT45242]

29. I like two phases -- ankle monitor and then jail

Another violation and he is put on ankle monitor.

He can go to court, home, lawyer's office, and Barron's graduation. He must stay within the state of NY metro area except when given permission by the judge.

Merchan can give him permission to stay in tRump tower or Bedminster (allow him to go to NJ). If he wants to campaign from there, he is welcome to.

[Irish_Dem]

31. I don't think the judge wants to interfere with Trump campaigning.

I think the judges are afraid of those optics.
And motions to appeal on these grounds.

So I don't think the judge will interfere with Trump's off time.

More likely to restrict Trump during courtroom hours.

Or overnight.

[NanaCat]

42. Ankle monitor isn't the right punishment for him.

First of all, the intention of an ankle monitor is to confine someone to movement within a very small area, and that isn't possible as long as he's campaigning nationally. Don't give him that ammo to whine about.

Second, ankle monitors are for people who are flight risks, and, contrary to what many silly people think, he isn't one. Even that gormless git knows that running would cost him the election, so he's not going anywhere until at least November.

[Blue Owl]

32. Mr. Stink belongs in the Klink

[DinahMoeHum]

33. Preferably Rikers Island or The Tombs

[NanaCat]

43. The old Tombs is no more.

Its demolition is ongoing, but the city expects the last of it to come down in 2025.

[DinahMoeHum]

45. Yeah, but odds are the Trumpies don't know that

[Emile]

36. Weekends in jail makes sense.

[Irish_Dem]

38. I don't think the judge wants to interfere with Trump's campaign time.

Not sure what he will do.

[NanaCat]

44. As Irish Dem noted

I doubt the judge will go there.

However, it is possible to lock him up on the evenings prior to Tuesday and Friday court appearances (Monday and Thursday evenings). That would be a suitable substitute for weekend confinement. Bonus: He wouldn't be able to communicate with the media during prime coverage days as well.

[keithbvadu2]

37. Make sure his safety is assured

Really bad prison time... Nazi war criminal... from advisor to liability

Nazi war criminal Alois Brunner died in Syria basement in 2001 - report

http://www.timesofisrael.com/nazi-war-criminal-alois-brunner-died-in-syria-basement-in-2001-report/

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38586945

Nazi war criminal Alois Brunner 'died in Syria squalor'

One of his guards said Brunner, who went by the name of Abu Hussein, “suffered and cried a lot in his final years, everyone heard him.”

The man, identified only as Omar, said he “couldn’t even wash.”

All he had to eat were “army rations - awful stuff - and an egg or a potato. He had to choose one or the other.”

(He was a 'consultant' to various torture regimes but when he became a political embarrassment/liability, his retirement plan was really bad)

[republianmushroom]

40. I like those thoughts.