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Botany

(70,684 posts)
Thu May 2, 2024, 08:31 AM May 2

What "they are" planning to do in order to steal the Presidential election this year.

I might be wrong but ….

These demonstrations of pro Palestinian vs pro Israeli factions seem to me as
having some kind Russian and or right wing backing. Putin and or the rich right
wing seem to be stirring up shit in order to help Trump.

And they are going to use these demonstrations as an example of why Joe Biden
“lost the election” because of lack of support for the POTUS and that will be used
as an explanation as to why he lost the election. In Ohio in 2004 even though exit
polls showed John Kerry winning comfortably w “won the state” because a huge
# of voters turned out because they were worried about gay marriage. Also expect
gas prices to go up too thanx to the fossil fuel industries and America’s good friends
the Saudis and the Russians.

Btw why the hell isn’t in prison right now is beyond me. He tried to violently overthrow
our Constitutional Democracy, took bribes from our enemies, and stole and no doubt
sold or gave our top secrets including the names and locations of our intelligence
personnel to our adversaries which has resulted in many deaths.

How to counter this rat fucking of our democracy? Vote, vote early, and vote on paper too.


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JohnSJ

(92,570 posts)
1. The republicans are already using the protesters against Biden saying it shows Biden is weak. It is bullshit, but
Thu May 2, 2024, 08:38 AM
May 2

the question are they going to vote.

gab13by13

(21,538 posts)
3. The Israeli/Palestinian protests hurt Democrats, no doubt.
Thu May 2, 2024, 08:48 AM
May 2

There is no good option in the Middle East with Bibi running the show. Bibi wants Trump elected.

Russia is already influencing the election. It has a huge presence on social media. One of the Go To sources for Magats is Telegram, which is Russian. Fox News backs Russia. Magats are in positions of power to refuse to certify votes in Democratic districts. The new co-chair of the RNC, Whatley is filing lawsuits across the country.

We must overwhelm them at the ballot box because this will not be a fair election.

There will be no Jack Smith trial pre-election. Time Mattered. Trump should have been arrested when it was determined he stole top secret documents. There is still a large classified binder on Russia that has not been located.

CincyDem

(6,425 posts)
6. I'm sorry - how is Bibi the only impediment in the Middle East to a good option?
Thu May 2, 2024, 10:17 AM
May 2

I would think that Hamas’ commitment to a one state solution that doesn’t include Israel might also be a factor, along with their desire for a cease fire that, in effect, turns back the hands of time to October 6th before they horrifically broke the cease fire that was in place at the time. Seems like they want resolution without accountability.

Are you suggesting that if Israel were to vote in new leadership, Hamas would jump on the peace train and we’d get a good option on the table?

CincyDem

(6,425 posts)
10. Ok.
Thu May 2, 2024, 01:36 PM
May 2

What I read was “there’s no good option while Bibi is in office” and took that to imply there is a good option if Bibi is not in office.

Once bibi is gone, what’s the good option that emerges from that single change?

On edit…overwhelm the ballot box is completely on point. I agree 1000% that we can’t wait/hope for some systemic savior to arise from the judicial jungle we’ve got.

lark

(23,224 posts)
5. I agree that Russia is probably behind the large student protests and doing it for tsf sake.
Thu May 2, 2024, 09:58 AM
May 2

I was just talking to my husband about this topic on our walk this morning.

Bibi is also part of the plot, committing genocide against the Palestinians for his own profit and power, making America look bad by supporting his murder on purpose plans.

Wish Biden would state plainly that unless Israel commits to no full scale Rafah , all military supplies are immediately stopped! He should say that today and stop the shipments tomorrow when bibi reaffirms his genocidal plans.

Bobstandard

(1,339 posts)
7. Agree! Russia got Trump elected once, doing it again
Thu May 2, 2024, 12:06 PM
May 2

Russias sophisticated social media propaganda campaign helped Trump get elected once, as postmortem analysis proved. It’s certain they’re at it again. In addition, if you add homegrown anarchists, and some number of radicalized Palestinian Americans and Muslim Americans to the mix, it’s easy to see how legitimate and heartfelt protest can be hijacked into a form designed to hurt Biden and, by extension, create crisis for American and Americans.

Duncan Grant

(8,298 posts)
8. What can individuals do about it?
Thu May 2, 2024, 12:31 PM
May 2

I understand people are anxious about the election. An effective option is available; contact the Democratic Party by email, phone, letter, etc. Find out what is needed and wanted in your area, and go do it. Get involved.

The energy channeled into these “what if” scenarios is best directed toward action. If each democrat devoted 30 minutes per week toward GOTV, voter registration, volunteer efforts, etc. — imagine how beneficial that would be for individuals and communities.

This sort of anxiety is unproductive. It’s a dead end.

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