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Nevilledog

(51,548 posts)
Thu May 16, 2024, 12:47 PM May 16

In asking if Biden is responsible for Roe's fall, the Times misinforms the public

https://www.editorialboard.com/in-asking-if-biden-is-responsible-for-roes-fall-the-times-misinforms-the-public/

I have to apologize in advance. I’m going to write about the Times again. What it did is too important to overlook.

What did the Times do? One of the questions in that recent Times poll I was telling you about, the one about Donald Trump being ahead of Joe Biden in five swing states, was about abortion.

Specifically, the question was about who’s more responsible for the end of Roe and national abortion rights: Is it Donald Trump or Joe Biden?

It’s a trick question, and the pollster asking that trick question should have told the person on the phone just kidding just kidding – Biden had nothing to do with it! It was all Trump. It was he who appointed the justices who struck down Roe. Indeed, he’s taken responsibility for it.

It’s not an open question. It’s not a debate. Who’s responsible is settled. Trump says he did it. Joe Biden says he did it. Anti-abortionists credit Trump. Abortion-rights defenders credit Trump. Everyone who’s participated in abortion discourse knows who did what to whom.

It may be the closest we’ll get to a national consensus on anything.

Yet the Times decided to wonder and the results are as expected.

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In asking if Biden is responsible for Roe's fall, the Times misinforms the public (Original Post) Nevilledog May 16 OP
It's a good measure of brown shirts. Nt BootinUp May 16 #1
K&R Think. Again. May 16 #2
Polls are very easy to manipulate by phrasing questions that lead the respondents. Lonestarblue May 16 #3
I am not asking the New York Times to be biased in favor of the non-rapist maxrandb May 16 #4
Isn't that like asking "who had sex with a porn star, Biden, or Donnie Dipshit?" maxrandb May 16 #5

Lonestarblue

(10,374 posts)
3. Polls are very easy to manipulate by phrasing questions that lead the respondents.
Thu May 16, 2024, 01:19 PM
May 16

Inserting bias is easy. Do you agree that Joe Biden should have prosecuted Donald Trump for January 6? Yes or no.

Writing neutral polls requires an understanding of how easy it is for bias to creep into questions. One would think pollsters would know this, but I think the NYT has an anti-Biden agenda, most likely because Sulzberger got his shorts in a knot over Biden not inviting him to the WH for a personal interview. Trump gave him an interview twice.

maxrandb

(15,489 posts)
4. I am not asking the New York Times to be biased in favor of the non-rapist
Thu May 16, 2024, 01:59 PM
May 16

I am just asking they not be biased in favor of the rapist.

maxrandb

(15,489 posts)
5. Isn't that like asking "who had sex with a porn star, Biden, or Donnie Dipshit?"
Thu May 16, 2024, 02:02 PM
May 16

Hey Times! My intent is NOT to give you any ideas.

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