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BumRushDaShow

(130,168 posts)
Thu May 2, 2024, 03:29 PM May 2

Trump pleads with Mar-a-Lago judge to toss case because Dr. Deborah Birx wasn't prosecuted for her 'boxes' of docs

Source: Law & Crime

May 2nd, 2024, 11:59 am


Attorneys for Donald Trump asked the Mar-a-Lago judge to throw out his indictment, arguing that he is being prosecuted under the Espionage Act unlike several similarly situated others, including Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House COVID-19 pandemic response coordinator remembered for squirming in a chair upon hearing the then president suggest at a press conference that a disinfectant “injection” could help treat coronavirus.

The defense began its argument Thursday by appealing to “American history” that is “chock full of public examples involving alleged mishandling of classified information and documents” without Espionage Act and obstruction prosecutions resulting, before naming President Joe Biden, Trump’s former Vice President Mike Pence, former President Bill Clinton, former Clinton National Security Advisor Sandy Berger, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, former FBI Director James Comey, General David Petraeus, and Birx.

Trump, charged with willful retention of national defense information and engaging in a conspiracy to obstruct the FBI and a grand jury from recovering classified documents that his co-defendants allegedly tried to conceal at his direction by moving numerous “boxes” around and scheming to delete video footage, maintains that special counsel Jack Smith’s case cannot survive in light of the aforementioned non-prosecution examples.

“[T]he unproven obstruction allegations by the Special Counsel’s Office cannot save this prosecution. Hillary Clinton and her colleagues deleted 31,830 emails and destroyed data on numerous electronic devices, including after a congressional preservation order,” the filing said. “Comey hid from the FBI that he had used a private scanner and his personal email account to transmit at least two classified documents to his personal attorneys. Berger stole documents from NARA and cut three of them ‘into small pieces,’ which resulted in NARA having informal ‘Sandy Berger’ rules.” The filing also took aim at Dr. Birx, saying she had “six boxes” of her own of interest to the National Archives (NARA), and that “a classified document” was found inside. But yet, no prosecution, Trump’s lawyers said:

Read more: https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/intolerable-trump-pleads-with-mar-a-lago-judge-to-toss-case-because-dr-deborah-birx-wasnt-prosecuted-for-her-boxes-of-docs/



Full headline: ‘Intolerable’: Trump pleads with Mar-a-Lago judge to toss case because Dr. Deborah Birx wasn’t prosecuted for her ‘boxes’ of docs

Link to FILING (PDF) - https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24630633/trump-dismissal-argument.pdf
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Trump pleads with Mar-a-Lago judge to toss case because Dr. Deborah Birx wasn't prosecuted for her 'boxes' of docs (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2 OP
He actually went to... Think. Again. May 2 #1
Right, there's only one response: unblock May 2 #9
She still lives in his head. onetexan May 3 #21
You know you're in trouble when the radar cop stop you for 75 in a 55 and your best defense is... CincyDem May 2 #2
Just more lawyers losing their careers backing a loser Traurigkeit May 2 #3
For some reason i worry more about THIS judge bluestarone May 2 #4
Responsible parents teach their kids early on NanaCat May 2 #5
Yes and additionally it's squealing on others who may or may not be guilty FakeNoose May 2 #13
Growing up in NYC, my mom used the Brooklyn Bridge Javaman May 2 #16
Trump didn't 'mishandle' documents though. canuckledragger May 2 #6
To be fair, he also mishandled them 0rganism May 2 #7
"But that car was driving 58 in a 55 and didn't get a ticket!" unblock May 2 #8
He never gave up the presidency. Arne May 2 #10
When Is Our Glorious Press modrepub May 2 #11
"Perhaps anticipating that Cannon would not dismiss the indictment on these grounds, Trump lawyers requested riversedge May 2 #12
Did Dr. Birx refuse to return the classified document tanyev May 2 #14
And did Brix employ numerous folks to lie for her, move boxes to numerous locations, get a lawyer to lie, in writing.... machoneman May 3 #23
Petraeus and Berger both plead guilty. onenote May 2 #15
39 months and counting (includes foot dragging and court delays) republianmushroom May 2 #17
he's being prosecuted because he was asked nicely to return them and refused. Takket May 2 #18
So let me get this straight.. Permanut May 2 #19
So, do I understand this correctly angrychair May 3 #20
Two Words: markbark May 3 #22
So I can lead an overthrow of the government and a violent attack on the Capitol since Trump did it and twodogsbarking May 3 #24
Whataboutism. It's a republican thing. truthisfreedom May 3 #25
Smith & Bedminster & Cannon duckworth969 May 3 #26

CincyDem

(6,422 posts)
2. You know you're in trouble when the radar cop stop you for 75 in a 55 and your best defense is...
Thu May 2, 2024, 03:41 PM
May 2

…but you didn’t stop that guy, or that guy, etc etc etc.

bluestarone

(17,152 posts)
4. For some reason i worry more about THIS judge
Thu May 2, 2024, 03:48 PM
May 2

Than any of them. She's the one that is and will continue to DELAY his trial.

NanaCat

(1,597 posts)
5. Responsible parents teach their kids early on
Thu May 2, 2024, 03:50 PM
May 2

That 'everyone else' doing something wrong or stupid isn't a reason for you to do it. Even if they don't realise it, most parents have been teaching the fallacy of argumentum ad populum ever since time immemorial: 'If Ian jumped off a cliff, would you do it, too?'

FakeNoose

(32,925 posts)
13. Yes and additionally it's squealing on others who may or may not be guilty
Thu May 2, 2024, 05:22 PM
May 2

... but they sure as hell aren't going to continue supporting you, knowing you squealed on them.

There's nothing to be gained by this, as parents know well.

Javaman

(62,540 posts)
16. Growing up in NYC, my mom used the Brooklyn Bridge
Thu May 2, 2024, 08:44 PM
May 2

I guess old Fred asshole trump never said that to his moron son

canuckledragger

(1,671 posts)
6. Trump didn't 'mishandle' documents though.
Thu May 2, 2024, 03:55 PM
May 2

He outright stole them, knowing it was illegal to do so, and refused to give them back when told he couldn't have them, despite numerous opportunities given to him to do so.

0rganism

(23,997 posts)
7. To be fair, he also mishandled them
Thu May 2, 2024, 04:00 PM
May 2

Not sure if this helps his case ; frankly, with the judge he got, he seems to have all the help he needs.

unblock

(52,531 posts)
8. "But that car was driving 58 in a 55 and didn't get a ticket!"
Thu May 2, 2024, 04:09 PM
May 2

Said the man that was driving 120 and rather than pull over, led the cops on a loooong high speed chase....

Arne

(2,169 posts)
10. He never gave up the presidency.
Thu May 2, 2024, 04:25 PM
May 2

Even now when he's poised to lose badly again.
The twisted fart thinks our security secrets are
his to sell.

modrepub

(3,507 posts)
11. When Is Our Glorious Press
Thu May 2, 2024, 04:26 PM
May 2

Going to figure out what was in the boxes tfg stole?!? If we all knew what was in those classified document boxes it would be much easier to figure out a motive. Just ask the idiot, he'll probably tell you. Enough beating around the bush folks. The American people deserve to know what this asshat took.

riversedge

(70,500 posts)
12. "Perhaps anticipating that Cannon would not dismiss the indictment on these grounds, Trump lawyers requested
Thu May 2, 2024, 05:11 PM
May 2

First, I do not have any trust in Judge Cannon.
Second--Trump once again is delaying any trial!!




..........Perhaps anticipating that Cannon would not dismiss the indictment on these grounds, Trump lawyers requested that she at least order up additional discovery and set a hearing on their arguments.

Read the Trump filing here.

machoneman

(4,019 posts)
23. And did Brix employ numerous folks to lie for her, move boxes to numerous locations, get a lawyer to lie, in writing....
Fri May 3, 2024, 08:48 AM
May 3

to the FBI, willfully hide stolen docs? I think......NOT!

Takket

(21,732 posts)
18. he's being prosecuted because he was asked nicely to return them and refused.
Thu May 2, 2024, 09:09 PM
May 2

if he had just said "aww, my bad" and handed them over when asked, NONE of this trial would be happening.

Permanut

(5,724 posts)
19. So let me get this straight..
Thu May 2, 2024, 11:33 PM
May 2

If I rob a bank, and another person robs a bank, all Ii have to is claim that I can't be prosecuted until or unless that other person is prosecuted.

What-aboutism at its best

angrychair

(8,765 posts)
20. So, do I understand this correctly
Fri May 3, 2024, 12:07 AM
May 3

TSF is bleeding cash far faster than he can actually replace it, spending millions on these lawyers and the best they can come up with is the "speeding ticket" argument?!?

Just another delay tactic. That's all this stuff is ever meant to be.

twodogsbarking

(9,989 posts)
24. So I can lead an overthrow of the government and a violent attack on the Capitol since Trump did it and
Fri May 3, 2024, 08:58 AM
May 3

wasn't arrested.

duckworth969

(656 posts)
26. Smith & Bedminster & Cannon
Fri May 3, 2024, 11:13 AM
May 3

I wonder if SC Smith is holding a Bedminster indictment in his back pocket in case Cannon dismisses the Mar -A -Lago charges?

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