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betsuni

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31. The myth that the candidate with the most money, as Romney did, has to win. Everything's about money.
Thu May 2, 2024, 03:04 AM
May 2

Also said only way Democrats could win in 2020 would be by running a "beloved celebrity" like Oprah or Tom Hanks and not a politician.

He was wrong about why Midwestern whites voted for Trump, believed the myth of economic anxiety and blamed Democrats. His documentary "Roger & Me" was released in 1989. Manufacturing jobs began disappearing in the '70s and by the '80s was terrible. But Moore and his types blame Bill Clinton and NAFTA and that every trade deal is bad (TPP was a diabolical Obama plot to screw American workers). He knows it isn't true.

Also these types keep saying, Gee whiz, why can't America have universal health care. Medicare for All as a purity test is destructive.

President Obama:

"... the need to replace private insurance and for-profit health care with a single-payer system like Canada's was an article of faith. Had we been starting from scratch I would have agreed with them; the evidence from other countries showed that a single, national system -- basically Medicare for All -- was a cost-effective way to deliver quality healthcare. But neither Massachusetts nor the United States was starting from scratch. Teddy [Kennedy, who spent his career fighting for universal health care as a human right], who despite his reputation as a wide-eyed liberal was ever practical, understood that trying to dismantle the existing system and replace it with an entirely new one would be not only a political nonstarter but hugely disruptive economically.

" 'What is it about sixty votes these folks don't understand?' I groused to my staff. 'Should I tell the thirty million people who can't get covered that they're going to have to wait another ten years because we can't get them a public option?' ... It also ignored the fact that all the great social welfare advances in American history, including Social Security and Medicare, had started off incomplete and had been built upon gradually, over time."

k n r obamanut2012 Apr 30 #1
Trash nt RussBLib Apr 30 #2
I like Moore and don't have a problem SocialDemocrat61 Apr 30 #3
I suspect Biden has made multiple calls Dave says May 1 #24
I agree with Moore here ProfessorPlum Apr 30 #4
+1... myohmy2 May 1 #11
Wait. You agree with Moore? In Too Deep May 1 #12
Welcome to DU orangecrush May 2 #46
Israel would have 85 percent of its military budget intact if we pulled all our aid. shrike3 May 1 #15
All the more reason to stop writing checks lame54 May 2 #25
With the military budget mostly intact, the war will likley continue. shrike3 May 2 #26
I'm talking about how it looks months before an election lame54 May 2 #27
I don't know that it will matter to the true believers. shrike3 May 2 #28
Our support of Israel offers us a seat at the table. In Too Deep May 2 #53
At this point we have to pay for a seat at the table?... lame54 May 2 #62
Supporting the only pro-US democracy in the Middle East. In Too Deep May 2 #63
Do, YOU ARE SAYING we have to pay to play... lame54 May 2 #64
Yes. That's typically how things work. In Too Deep May 2 #65
Fucking Moore is GASLIGHTING and HOpefully Cha May 1 #16
you realize his wording is "he's MADE to..." Cuthbert Allgood May 2 #41
I agree with Michael also. I listened to an entire interview and he is right. HUAJIAO May 2 #29
Now is not a time for divisiveness with trump and his Plan 2025 outlining his plans for fascism... brush May 2 #54
Some years ago I had a post removed for calling him trash Stinky The Clown Apr 30 #5
🤗🫂 Oopsie Daisy May 2 #36
How would Moore obtain this mysterious cease fire? Johonny Apr 30 #6
Personally blames Democrats for causing/not stopping all bad things, being dishonest immoral warmongers. betsuni Apr 30 #7
He understands the Democratic base in the Midwest TheRealNorth May 1 #13
No. Moore does't even know who the Cha May 1 #14
I would venture to guess he knows the midwest base better than you. Cuthbert Allgood May 2 #40
Moore is trying to Depress the Vote for Pres Biden. Cha May 2 #45
No, he isn't. Cuthbert Allgood May 2 #47
He helped creats the problem in 2016 during the primary and ran his mouth in 20 as well. Demsrule86 May 2 #49
I am so tired of.. DemocratInPa May 2 #58
Says some dude (or dudette) retired in Hawaii TheRealNorth May 2 #55
Yeah my son has lived here since 1985. Cha May 2 #56
I live in the Midwest. shrike3 May 1 #23
I live in the Chicago suburbs and yep. This election is going to come down to how people feel about the "economy" MistakenLamb May 2 #32
Nope Roe Roe your vote. Demsrule86 May 2 #50
Michael Moore hurt Gore, Kerry and Clinton...so spare me. Demsrule86 May 2 #48
And MM was dead wrong about freaking Cha May 2 #59
I missed that...good point Cha! Demsrule86 May 3 #66
He was the canary in the coal mine in 2016. Sneederbunk Apr 30 #8
He also said, "Get used to President Romney" in 2012. shrike3 May 1 #17
Yes I just Posed this with a Link... Cha May 1 #20
The myth that the candidate with the most money, as Romney did, has to win. Everything's about money. betsuni May 2 #31
Moore was WRONG about 2012. Cha May 1 #19
Canary in the coal mine? W_HAMILTON May 1 #21
Jesus.. I asked what MM did to help Hillary in Cha May 1 #22
"Michael Moore in Trumpland" where he finally supported Hillary was released October 18, 2016. betsuni May 2 #35
Or, he released it when it would be fresh in minds when people voted. Cuthbert Allgood May 2 #39
And, predicting a TSF win.. There's NO excuse. Cha May 2 #42
Never forget Moore said President Obama will only be remembered for being the first black president. betsuni Apr 30 #9
Yes. That was disgusting. Oopsie Daisy May 1 #10
What an ugly Racist Bullshit thing for Moore to say Cha May 1 #18
I'm about fucking done with pandering to Moore and hanging on his every word. He is a fucking concern troll and no ally. SoFlaBro May 2 #33
Yeh he's a Gaslit Troll and Cha May 2 #34
I am not a fan of Moore LetMyPeopleVote May 2 #30
Sorry Banquo, Michael Moore won an Oscar. You're the one who will be forgotten. jalan48 May 2 #37
Big whoop. Elessar Zappa May 2 #43
LOL jalan48 May 2 #44
He pretty much called what was going to happen in 2016 Cuthbert Allgood May 2 #38
I don't think he'll be remembered at all... brooklynite May 2 #51
His movies are very much of their time as opposed to being timeless. Shermann May 2 #52
Post removed Post removed May 2 #57
Only 72 days, not months SocialDemocrat61 May 2 #61
I have never been a fan of him. And never will. His views are twisted. LiberalFighter May 2 #60
I'm a fan of Michael Moore and appreciate what he's done. Greybnk48 May 3 #67
Michael Morre said "Pres Obama would only be remembered for being a Black Pres.. & that's it" Cha May 3 #68
I remember that. He's an awful gaslighting human being. A waste of flesh. Oopsie Daisy May 6 #69
I jsut posted that in the other Cha May 6 #70
Bullshit. H2O Man May 6 #71
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